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h1. Guide to programming cables
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This page is a collection of user submitted information on radio programming cables. If you have corrections or additions to this page, please "submit":http://chirp.danplanet.com/contact them to me, or ask for edit privileges. I much prefer this information to be user-maintained and contributed!
h2. Cable Buying Advice
In some most cases, the manufacturer of your radio produces the highest quality cable for programming. However, these are usually the most expensive and are not always the most convenient (because of a lack of USB, etc). The exception to this are the very low cost USB cables that come with many Chinese radios that use a counterfeit Prolific USB to serial chip that has a number of driver problems with recent versions of Microsoft Windows. These cables generally work ok with Linux.
Third party cables are available for most radios with for a range fraction of costs the cost, but quality can be an issue. Several radios use actual RS-232 signalling and quality. The low cost thus cables use counterfeit Prolific USB chips. If you use Microsoft Windows, finding the right driver and keeping it working for these radios can be quite a chore. Saving $10-15 on a cable might cost easily home-built.
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h3. How to figure out which cable to buy (Recommendations)
Advice me, or ask for purchasing a USB radio programming cable:
* *Avoid USB programming cables that appear edit privileges. I much prefer this information to be based on the Prolific PL-2303 USB chip*. This is the chip that user-maintained and contributed!
*NOTE:* RTSystems has recently been cloned/counterfeited in the Chinese cables. The early clones were fairly unreliable. Because of the counterfeiting, Prolific has taken the step of making shipping cables intentionally handicapped to prevent their newest drivers attempt to detect the counterfeit chips and refuse to work use with them. Recent versions of Microsoft Windows (7 third party software, and later) will automatically update to the latest Prolific driver. This can make a cable stop working at some point after it is installed. <br /> Look at the driver instructions for references to PL-2303. Also another clue is that there will be many different drivers listed to try if one doesn't work.
* *Cables based on the FTDI USB chip are recommended*. FTDI makes a high quality USB to serial chip that has a good, working driver built in to many operating systems. The FTDI chip can add $10-15 to the cost prevent use of a USB programming cable, but will save time and frustration with driver issues. Look for cables that specifically mention *FTDI*. Another clue is that the cables are advertised to work with Windows 7 64-bit. Some of the 3rd third party cable manufacturers, such as Valley Enterprises, have switched to using only the FTDI chip after having too many problems with the Prolific clones.
* *RT Systems cables are not recommended for use with CHiRP*. While RT Systems sells high quality USB programming cables _their_ software. Beware that are based on the FTDI chip, these cables if you buy their software/cable package, you will not work with CHiRP and any other software that except the cable be able to show up as a generic serial (COM) port. The RT Systems cables use a custom ID. With some work it is possible to get the RT Systems cable to show up as a generic serial devices, see CableGuide FTDI OEM Cables.
* If you can't tell what chip the cable uses, look for a different cable.
h2. Making your own their cables with CHIRP!
It is possible to build your own radio programming cable. Most radios use a serial interface for programming, however the voltage levels used varies. RS-232 Serial ports used voltage variations of -15Vdc to +15Vdc which was good for older equipment and long cables. Modern low voltage electronics tends to use signalling levels of 0-5Vdc, or 0-3.3Vdc. Be sure you know what voltage levels your radio expects before connecting anything. *RS-232 voltage levels can damage your radio if it is expecting to see a max of 3.3Vdc or 5Vdc*. Older radios with built-in TNCs or those otherwise designed to connect directly to a computer use RS-232 voltages. However these radios are becoming more and more rare. Most modern radios have a low voltage port connected directly to the radio's microcontroller for cloning and memory programming.
There is quite a bit of information available on building cables for most radios on the internet. There is usually Many radios have at least one mailing list, Yahoo group, or a forum for
h2. Alinco Radios
All (to my knowledge) Alinco radios use a three-pin 1/8" plug with a TTL converter in the 9-pin housing. This is identical to the Icom OPC-478 cable.
h2. Baofeng
h3. UV-3R
The UV-3R uses a Prolific USB-to-serial chip, but users report that in Windows, you must use drivers from http://409shop.com. It works out of the box on Linux.
The PLUS model of the UV-3R uses a Kenwood/Wouxun cable instead of the original single plug cable used by the UV-3R and UV-3R Mark II. All models (thus far) of the UV-3R use the same software
h3. UV-4X
The UV-4X is a rebadged UV-3R Mark II and uses the single connector cable. The radios themselves are made by "Vero Telecom":http://www.verotelecom.com/
h3. UV-5R
The UV-5R is made by TYT, uses a Kenwood/Wouxun cable, and does not use the same protocol as the UV-3R models.
h2. Icom Radios
h3. VHF/UHF Mobiles
Nearly all of these radios use an OPC-478 (or similar) cable, which plugs into the speaker jack of the radio. The housing of the 9-pin connector has TTL conversion logic, which can be home-built but it is typically easier to buy one pre-made. Note that some of the mobile D-STAR radios can also use their data connection for programming, which uses RS-232 signalling and requires no conversion hardware. Models that can do this include the IC-2820H, ID-880H, and ID-80.
h3. IC-91AD, IC-92AD, ID-1
These radios operate in "live" mode and require a full-duplex RS-232 serial cable connection. For the IC-91AD, the OPC-1529 cable is used (and can be easily built).
The 92AD uses a moisture-proof custom bayonet connection at the top of the radio, which is only available from Icom (OPC-1799) and only with their RS-92 programming software. Note that the OPC-1797 adapter cable will not allow you to use an OPC-478 programming cable with this radio.
The ID-1 is programmed via its integrated USB connection.
h3. IC-Q7A
For some reason, this radio doesn't use the standard three-conductor plug on the OPC-478. The cable for the Yaesu VX-7 actually works perfectly though.
h2. Kenwood Radios
h3. TH-F6A, TH-K2A
These radios use a two-pronged cable that plugs into the microphone and speaker jacks simultaneously.
3rd party USB cables:
* "Valley Enterprises FTDI-based Cable":http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/kenwood-radio-programming-cable-kpg22-series-p-187.html
h3. TH-D7, TH-D7A, TH-D7Ag
These radios use a three-pin 3/32" plug directly wired to an RS-232 port (easily home-built).
h3. TM-D700
This radio uses a regular serial cable (Female-Female) to the 9-pin connector on the front of the radio.
h3. TM-D710, TM-V71A
This radio uses a RS-232 cable (officially, PG-5G) directly cabled to a eight-pin Mini-DIN connector marked "PC" on the back of the radio. No level converter is required, so this can be easily home-made with the right connectors.
h2. Yaesu Radios
Check the following recommended vendors for cables:
* "Valley Enterprises":http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/yaesuvertex-c-25_45_49.html
* "KAWA Mall":http://www.kawamall.com/cat_cable_for_yaesu_vertex.cfm
h3. VX-2R, VX-3R, VX-5R, VX-6R, VX-7R, FT-60R
These handhelds use the same type of cable, which is a four-pin TRRS connector and a TTL voltage converter in the 9-pin housing.
3rd party cables:
* "Valley Enterprises FTDI Based Cable":http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/yaesu-radio-programming-cable-ft60-ftdi-chipset-p-215.html
* "KAWA Mall":http://stores.ebay.com/KAWAMALL-RAD/Other-/_i.html?_nkw=vx7+cable&submit=Search&_fsub=1&_sid=55765193 : Works for VX-2,3,5,6,7R, ICOM IC-Q7A
* "409shop":http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=103790 : 2-in-1 cable for these handhelds and FT-7/8xxx mobiles
h3. VX-8R, VX-8DR
The VX-8R and VX-8DR both use a moisture-proof multi-pin screw-on connector at the top of the housing. It is recommended that you find a third-party programming cable (not from RTSystems) for this radio. Note that the radio expects 3.3V signalling.
If you are interested in building a custom cable, see "this guide":http://users.tpg.com.au/vk4go1/vx8-2.htm.
3rd party cables:
* "VX-8R/DR":http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/yaesu-radio-programming-cable-fdti-chipset-windows-p-226.html from Valley Enterprises
h3. VX-8GR
The VX-8GR uses a three-conductor 3/32" plug directly to an RS-232 port. This is the same cable that Kenwood APRS radios use for the GPS connection, and almost the same as the Icom OPC-1529 type data cable, except that a null modem adapter must be used to switch the TX and RX pins.
3rd party cables:
* "VX-8GR":http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/programming-cable-yaesu-vx8g-series-ct143-ftdi-windows-p-790.html?osCsid=j1ar78gkc6k6f6rueetvrb3pi6 from Valley Enterprises
h3. FT-7800, FT-7900, FT-8800, FT-8900
These radios use a 6-pin mini-DIN plug and a TTL converter in the 9-pin housing.
3rd party cables:
* "Valley Enterprises":http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/yaesu-programming-cable-ft7800-ft8800-ft8900-p-218.html
h2. Wouxun Radios
The KG-UVD1P and UV2, UV3 radios use the same cable as the Kenwood TH-F6A and TH-K2A listed above. The connection consists of a 3.5 mm and a 2.5 mm 3-conductor phone plug (TRS). It is a 5 Volt (TTL) serial interface, with Ground and TXD (from Radio) on the sleeve and ring of the 2.5mm connector. RXD (to radio)is on the sleeve of the 3.5 mm plug.
3rd party USB cables:
* "Valley Enterprises FTDI-based Cable":http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/kenwood-radio-programming-cable-kpg22-series-p-187.html