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Yaesu FT5D

Added by David McLemore over 1 year ago. Updated 19 days ago.

Status:
New
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
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Target version:
-
Start date:
09/10/2021
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Equipment Loan Offered:
No

Description

Yaesu has released the new successor to the FT3D, the FT5D.
The FT5D's MEMORY.dat and BACKUP.dat files won't open in Chirp when trying to set it to use the FT3D radio so Yaesu's changed something in the file.
Currently there is not a single software application out there that can program this radio - nothing from RT Systems and not even Yaesu has released an updated programmer software for it.
Tried the most recent version of Yaesu's programming software but it reports an error and won't open the FT5D files.
Oddly enough, the FT3D Whiz software actually opens the FT5D MEMORY.dat file just fine, but I'm not a fan of that software as it does not have any type of import function from 3rd party frequency databases or CSV files.
Attached are the MEMORY.dat and BACKUP.dat files from my own FT5D for testing/exploration, straight off the micro-SD card.


Files

MEMORY.dat (43.1 KB) MEMORY.dat FT5D MEMORY backup file David McLemore, 09/10/2021 03:00 PM
BACKUP.dat (127 KB) BACKUP.dat FT5D full backup file David McLemore, 09/10/2021 03:00 PM

Related issues

Has duplicate New Model #9929: Yaesu FT5D Would it be possible for someone to have a update on this new radio?Rejected09/10/2021

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Has duplicate New Model #10222: FT5DRRejected01/04/2023

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Actions #1

Updated by Tim Gelvin 10 months ago

I also have this HT... !was hoping Chirp would have it on it's list by now. Waiting patiently!

Actions #2

Updated by Ar Che 3 months ago

I am in possession of ADMS-14 source code. I can share it with anyone interested.

Actions #3

Updated by Ham Radio 3 months ago

Hoping for a CHIRP update that allow this Yaesu flagship HT to be programmed, so far there's no method to program 11/2022

Actions #4

Updated by Stuart Longland 3 months ago

I recently purchased two of these radios, and after putting some frequencies in the memory, I told it to back-up the memory to SD card and had a look.

Here's a subset:

00002aa0 02 10 14 68 75 c1 00 00 34 44 42 20 52 65 64 6c |...hu...4DB Redl|
00002ab0 61 6e 64 73 20 32 6d ff 00 06 00 09 00 0d 00 18 |ands 2m.........|
00002ac0 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |................|
*
000030e0 03 17 43 82 00 c1 00 00 34 5a 42 20 42 72 69 73 |..C.....4ZB Bris|
000030f0 62 61 6e 65 20 37 30 63 00 50 00 09 00 0d 00 18 |bane 70c.P......|
00003100 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |................|

Those are the entries for VK4RDB Bayside 146.875MHz and VK4RZB Mt. Coot-tha 438.200MHz; both FM repeaters with a 91.5Hz CTCSS.

Simplex looks similar, for instance, the national 2m APRS frequency 145.175MHz (channel 999):
000094c0 02 00 14 51 75 d0 00 00 41 50 52 53 20 32 6d ff |...Qu...APRS 2m.|
000094d0 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 06 00 0c 00 0d 80 18 |................|
000094e0 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |................|

I don't know how this compares to prior models, but what I do know just looking at that hex dump:

  • each memory channel is 32 bytes long
  • first byte is a band indicator? (0x02 for 2m, 0x03 for 70cm?)
  • the frequency is stored in BCD; byte offset 2-4
  • ASCII memory tag is in byte offset 8-15; not sure if byte 16 is a null terminator or if that 0x00 means something else
  • the general memory channels start at offset 0x17e0 (channel 150 is at 0x2aa0; 200 at 0x30e0… etc)
Actions #5

Updated by Stuart Longland about 2 months ago

Some more reverse-engineering notes… the first section of the file seems to be a "flags" register that indicates what channels are used.

I added two simplex frequencies in slots 1 and 2. 1 was already preset with a factory default, but 2 was previously clear. Note the byte at 0x000012c1 changed from 0x00 to 0x03.

00000000 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |................| 00000000 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |................|

  • * 000012c0 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| | 000012c0 03 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| 000012d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| 000012d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|

Here are the actual channels I added/changed:

00001800 02 00 14 50 00 d0 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |...P............| | 00001800 02 04 14 65 00 c0 00 00 32 6d 20 63 61 6c 6c 69 |...e....2m calli|
00001810 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 06 00 0c 00 0d 80 18 |................| | 00001810 6e 67 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 06 00 09 00 0d 00 08 |ng..............|
00001820 02 00 14 55 20 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |...U ...........| | 00001820 03 04 43 90 00 c0 00 00 37 30 63 6d 20 63 61 6c |..C.....70cm cal|
00001830 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 06 00 08 00 0d 00 08 |................| | 00001830 6c 69 6e 67 ff ff ff ff 00 50 00 09 00 0d 00 08 |ling.....P......|

So ch1 I changed the simplex frequency from 145000kHz (default) to 146550kHz (Australia national 2m calling frequency).
Ch2 apparently was set to 145520kHz, but due to the flag in the earlier block, was seen as "unused".

Actions #6

Updated by Stuart Longland about 2 months ago

Did some more reverse-engineering work… I came up with this:

https://github.com/sjlongland/chirp/commit/fffd6eecfefcc673c8b6e8ae3d7b5d120d55637a

It appears it's a very different layout to the FT3D. The vacancy flags appear to be the same as the FT1D/FT2D/FT3D, but it is at a different memory location. The actual channel seems to have quite different fields. Note the assert statements at the bottom: I don't know what those values mean yet.

Actions #7

Updated by Dan Smith 29 days ago

  • Has duplicate New Model #9929: Yaesu FT5D Would it be possible for someone to have a update on this new radio? added
Actions #8

Updated by Dan Smith 25 days ago

Actions #9

Updated by Dan Smith 19 days ago

Can anyone get me a file saved from the FT5 ADMS software? It seems like it won't let me save out an empty file, maybe without a radio?

I've decoded the ft1, 2, and 3 ADMS formats now, which is handy, so looking at the FT5 file from that software should help determine some differences.

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