New Model #9665

Radtel RT-490

Added by Ovi Mihut 11 months ago. Updated 4 days ago.

Status:Feedback Start date:12/28/2021
Priority:Normal Due date:
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Target version:chirp-daily
Chirp Version:daily Equipment Loan Offered:No

Radtel RT490 User Manual English Expanded_Bluetooth_vKevin.pdf - Enhanced RT-490 manual includes Multiband and Bluetooth aids (1.6 MB) Herbert Smith KI5VGT, 03/16/2022 05:08 pm

Group GPS How To v4.pdf - Configure up to 10 radios to share real-time GPS Coordinates and distance. (695.5 kB) Herbert Smith KI5VGT, 05/06/2022 07:09 pm

rt490.py - Driver source (64.2 kB) . @angelof9:matrix.org, 05/06/2022 07:29 pm

rt490.patch - Driver patch (66.4 kB) . @angelof9:matrix.org, 05/06/2022 07:29 pm

Radtel_RT-490.img - Driver binary image (16.2 kB) . @angelof9:matrix.org, 05/06/2022 07:29 pm

MemCodeTests More.pdf - VoicePri Encryption Test Scenarios for new RT490 Driver (465.4 kB) Herbert Smith KI5VGT, 05/06/2022 08:03 pm

Radtel - RT-490 - Factory Defaults - 20220601.img - Factory Defaults (16.2 kB) Andy B, 06/04/2022 01:00 am

Radtel - RT-490 - VFOs Narrow - 20220601.img - Factory Defaults altered to have both VFOs set to Narrow (16.2 kB) Jim Unroe, 06/04/2022 03:07 am

User-Manual-5335337.pdf (3.8 MB) Freek Wolsink, 06/16/2022 02:29 pm

External-Photos-5335334.pdf (977.4 kB) Freek Wolsink, 06/16/2022 02:29 pm

Internal-Photos-5335335.pdf (1.3 MB) Freek Wolsink, 06/16/2022 02:29 pm

286AA.png (393.5 kB) Claudio Muniz, 06/16/2022 11:36 pm

286AA.png (393.5 kB) Claudio Muniz, 06/17/2022 09:56 pm

286AA.png (393.5 kB) Claudio Muniz, 06/18/2022 04:25 pm

Screenshot (6).png - crash on module load (61.2 kB) Richard Fluharty, 06/21/2022 10:42 pm

Screenshot (7).png (70.8 kB) Richard Fluharty, 06/21/2022 10:57 pm

rt49p.pl_download.png (23.5 kB) Jim Unroe, 06/22/2022 01:35 am

1.png - Chinese is missing (25.2 kB) Hongguang Yang, 07/15/2022 09:25 am

2.png - BLANK (15.8 kB) Hongguang Yang, 07/15/2022 09:25 am

Boristone_8RS_EN.img (16.2 kB) Hongguang Yang, 07/19/2022 04:34 am

MMLradio_JC-8629_EN.img (16.2 kB) Jim Unroe, 07/25/2022 05:43 pm

History

Updated by Bernhard Hailer 11 months ago

Handheld; Specification: 6 Bands:1) 136-180MHz(RX/TX)2) 200-260MHz(RX/TX)3) 350-400MHz(RX/TX)4) 400-520MHz(RX/TX)5) 108-136MHz (AM RX) - Air Band Receive Only6) 66-108MHz (FM RX)- FM RADIOFeatures:1. Support GPS positioning information2. Support Smartphone APP programming via bluetooth3.50 sets of CTCSS, 105 sets of DCS4. Transmission time out5. Voice encryption (frequency hopping function)6. 8 steps: 2.5k, 5k, 6.25k,...

Updated by kevin xie 10 months ago

Hello, I am the manufacturer for radtel rt-490 ham radio, I would like to send sample to make CHIRP compatible. I am first time to use this website and don't know how to process next.
anybody want to help me?

Updated by Hello Chirp 10 months ago

Hi Guys CHIRPBOI here.

I would love to see somebody come forward for this radio.
Kevin the owner below has many more models that may need support and nhe is interested in getting this going.
So far the RADTEL works well for me but CHIRP support would mean the world. I love CHIRP and use it almost weekly.
This radio interestingly enough picks up AM from the airport down the street and has more memory than the usual baofeng.

I would love to be able to "quick program" with CHIRP! Anybody???
Thank you very much to Bernhard for his kind help and advice and thank you to any DEVS that may come forward.

As for the "popularity" of this radio...
I think Chinese users and Pacific are more familiar with this brand than US based hams,
but as ALIBABA and ALIEXPRESS come forward you will see more and more RADTEL radios for sure.
The owners / managers at Radtel are friendly and responsive.

I hope this helps any US based members and future customers of RADTEL understand their radios.

A few things I noted about RADTEL RT-490:
- As of today 02/14/2022 the RT490 is NOT supported by CHIRP and attempting to program radio with WOUXUN, ABBREE, or other configs has not worked
- Please post here to notify DEVS that you own this radio and that you are interested in CHIRP support
- Anybody who succesfully programs this radio with any different manufacturer config please let us know here
- RADTEL as a brand is actively seeking to obtain CHIRP support for their radios
- CHIRP was notified of recent interest in this radio
- Radio can be bought via ALIexpress or Radtel's website
- China made with decent quality
- AM works / picking up local exec Airport etc
- Fair priced although more $$$ than Baofeng UV
- Cool color display
- Bluetooth works well but it is not like having CHIRP

PS: I do not work for CHIRP or Radtel. I just like the radio and its price...

Updated by Hello Chirp 10 months ago

kevin xie wrote:

Hello, I am the manufacturer for radtel rt-490 ham radio, I would like to send sample to make CHIRP compatible. I am first time to use this website and don't know how to process next.
anybody want to help me?

Hi Kevin... Hopefully somebody comes forward soon.
Maybe leave your full info for those who are seeking direct contact with you as a manufacturer.

All the best CHRIPboi

Updated by Hello Chirp 10 months ago

Bernhard Hailer wrote:

Handheld; Specification: 6 Bands:1) 136-180MHz(RX/TX)2) 200-260MHz(RX/TX)3) 350-400MHz(RX/TX)4) 400-520MHz(RX/TX)5) 108-136MHz (AM RX) - Air Band Receive Only6) 66-108MHz (FM RX)- FM RADIOFeatures:1. Support GPS positioning information2. Support Smartphone APP programming via bluetooth3.50 sets of CTCSS, 105 sets of DCS4. Transmission time out5. Voice encryption (frequency hopping function)6. 8 steps: 2.5k, 5k, 6.25k,...

Thank you for your help Bernhard... I know you are busy but thanks again!

Updated by kevin xie 10 months ago

there is many review for radtel rt-490 here https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003028392011.html
also in the near future I would like make CHIRP compatible with our new model RT-830 here https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003606671789.html
please contact me directly via email kevin@radtel.com.cn or whatsapp: +8615860705619
software to download in website www.radtels.com

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 9 months ago

Please change the original request for Equipment Offered to indicate Yes. Last month the distributor lead representative (Keven Xie) offered to provide an RT-490 radio for programming. (note given time differences his response usually takes 1-day)

I personally own and like the Radtel RT-490 Multiband radio. I am attaching Radtel's most recent enhanced user guide that includes Multiband and Bluetooth programming guides.

When the RT-490 is added to Chirp, as with other Asian radios, Chirp will also be supporting several other brands that utilize the same base electronics and memory map. My research found that the original manufacturer is Math Mark (Fujian) aka MMLradio. MML submitted and received FCC Class B Part 15 certification for this model. MML originally marketed their branded radio as the JJC JC-8629 and currently sells it on Amazon as the MMLradio JC-8629.

Radtel RT-490 is a clone of the JC-8629 radio (radio disassembly shows internal PCB's engraved JC-8629/8630). To their credit, Radtel significantly expanded support by providing free downloads of both the PC Windows programming software Multiband and the Android Bluetooth software Super Walki-Talkie on their website download section. Multiband is very complete but still, Chirp is easier and supports import/export frequencies using CSV etc. Radtel has officially requested that Chirp developers add the Radtel RT-490 to supported radios. The Radtel RT-490 and the JC-8629 and its clones all are programmable with the standard Baofeng 2-pin K-style programming cable.

I had the opportunity to test the programming compatibility between the MML JC-8629 side-by-side with the Radtel RT-490 using Multiband and the Baofeng cable. Also I used my Samsung S21 Bluetooth with the APK that Radtel provides.

I was able to read and write to both radios without error. With Multiband I could read the Radtel RT-490 and write it back to the JC-8629 without error (and vice-versa). With Bluetooth Super Walki-Talkie installed on my Samsung S21, I turned on the Bluetooth option on each radio and the S21 recognized and paired without issue. Once paired I was able to program frequencies and menu options easily.

The point here is that any effort to include the Radtel RT-490 as a supported Chirp model offers a much larger supported model base than just this one model.

These are the Radtel RT-490 compatible clones that have identical keyboard layouts, menu options and designated supported bands.
I have identified, and in some cases tested:

  • Radtel RT-490 TESTED (available at Radtels.com)
  • MMLradio JC-8629 TESTED (available on Amazon)
  • JJCC JC-8629 TESTED
  • Socotran JC-8629 (available on eBay)
  • Jianpai 8800 Plus (available at Banggood.com)
  • Hamgeek HG590 (available on eBay)

This is a really nice radio sold at a very attractive price considering its support for 6 bands.
I really hope someone will take this project on and contact Radtel by email "" (note given time differences his response usually takes 1-day)

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 8 months ago

Hello,

I already communicated this to the ML but I have started working on a driver for this radio family.

Current status:
  • Download: 100%
  • Upload: 0%
  • Memory structure: 95%
  • GUI Get/Set Memory Channels: 90%
  • GUI Get/Set Memory Channels extra: 90%
  • GUI Get/Set Memory Channels encryption: 99% (blocked because I fail adding RadioSettingValueString in channel extra GUI, no errors, no debug, just nothing appears, help wanted)
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (basic): 0%
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (adv): 0%
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (workmodes a/b): 0%
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (DTMF): 65%
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (ANICODES): 0%
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (custom anichannel names): 0%
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (custom channel names): 0%
  • GUI Get/Set Settings (custom side keys): 0%
Hidden features unlock:
  • Remote kill switch (enable/disable, kill & revive dtmf)

As I am very new to this hobby I have now serious difficulties to progress and any help is welcome. I can provide/share driver and images usable in Chirp for debugging.

Contacts: email or @angelof9:matrix.org

Cheers

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 8 months ago

Hello,

The drivers is finished from my point of view and I need some testers.
I was able to tackle most bugs with the help of one very kind Chirp user but we need more feedback.
At this moment the driver passed all automated Chirp tests.
Please contact me if you are able to test.

Kind Regards,
Ao9

Updated by David Annett 8 months ago

. @angelof9:matrix.org wrote:

Hello,
...
Please contact me if you are able to test.

I am Linux Chirp user with one of these radios collecting dust on my desk. Currently I have the Chirp daily build install via the package manager. Let me know what I need to do to get a Linux Chirp binary to test with?

Updated by Chris Brown 8 months ago

Hello Ao9!

I have a clone of the RT-490 (Socotran FB-8629) and am ready to test. Have been able to program with Multiband, but it is hard to use...

Thanks!
Chris

Updated by Chris Brown 8 months ago

Forgot to say, Windows user...

Updated by Terry Lindsey 8 months ago

A09, I would love to test for you as I have the Jianpai 8800 Plus and Windows computer. Please let me know if this is possible. I have tried all radios and none would work.

Thanks
KI5UHR

Updated by Ed Kretchmer 8 months ago

Count me in for testing.

Socotran JC-8629

Updated by Hongguang Yang 7 months ago

. @angelof9:matrix.org wrote:

Hello,

The drivers is finished from my point of view and I need some testers.
I was able to tackle most bugs with the help of one very kind Chirp user but we need more feedback.
At this moment the driver passed all automated Chirp tests.
Please contact me if you are able to test.

Kind Regards,
Ao9

Count me in for testing.
BORISTONE 8RS, Clone JJCC - 8629,I have installed and tested the write frequency software and Bluetooth software of JJCC-8629, which are compatible with borglstone 8RS

Updated by Carlos Palma 7 months ago

i have Jianpai 8800 Plus
Count me in for testing
Carlos Palma

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 7 months ago

The driver is almost ready and I plan to push it for official review and merge in the next days.

Updated by Attila Jantsek 7 months ago

Hi,

I have two Jianpai 8800 Plus handhelds and will be happy to be a tester.

Cheers,

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 7 months ago

Patch submitted to the mailing list.

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 7 months ago

The attached 1-page flyer explains the required setup for GPS Group.

During the testing for the Radtel RT-490 we decided to document how to implement GPS so that a group, say for instance a group of hikers or ATV riders in the mountains could use several RT-490's or a mix of RT-490s with other like clones (MMLradio, Jainpai, etc.). When properly setup, the radios will update each other with real-time GPS locations. I believe this is what Analog APRS does. Implementing is really pretty simple...once you know the puzzle solution.

We put together a 1-page flyer that should guide anyone wanting to implement the feature. The RT-490 and its clones can support this group GPS function for up to 10 radios. Basically, each radio in the group will end up using a common memory channel frequency and each radio will have a Custom ANI Name, an ANI Name ID code, a custom ANI Tone Code and a unique PTT ID code.

Our testing and setup were done using a Radtel RT-490 and an MMLradio JC-8629.

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 7 months ago

RT-490 Driver patch has been submitted.

[RT-490] New driver for Radtel RT-490 and 8 other clones (Fix issue #9665)

The driver supports:
  • Radtel RT-490,
  • MMLradio 8629,
  • JJCC 8629,
  • Socotran JC8629,
  • Socotran FB8629,
  • Jianpai 8629,
  • Boristone 8RS,
  • Abbree AR869,
  • HamGeek HG590.

Support ALL official software features.

Plus these new features:
  • FM preset
  • Channel memory preset
  • Killswitch setup (+ can revive killed radios)
  • Bands settings for 4 bands ranges + tx on/off
  • Fixed issue of radio being corrupted with official software
    with custom (channel/ani) names
  • Included basic help for custom features
  • Clarified Group/Team GPS Discovery setup (Good for team of up to 10 radios)
  • Supports Voice Privacy Learn Code function (managed in Memory, Properties, Other)
  • Disable radio identification string verification
    (good to recover from a bad state)
For those that cannot wait here are the steps to use the driver with the official daily Chirp:
  • Start Chirp
  • Check "Enable Developer Functions" in "Help" menu
  • In "File" menu use "Load module" to load the RT-490 driver
  • Plug your radio
  • Download from your radio
  • Have fun

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 7 months ago

Typo fixed for Jianpai, no impact on driver submission.

The driver supports:
  • Radtel RT-490,
  • MMLradio 8629,
  • JJCC 8629,
  • Socotran JC8629,
  • Socotran FB8629,
  • Jianpai 8800 Plus,
  • Boristone 8RS,
  • Abbree AR869,
  • HamGeek HG590.

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 7 months ago

1-Page summary of Encryption Test Scenarios attached

The Radtel RT-490 and other clones support using standard CTCSS and DCS tone codes that can somewhat restrict communication to those on the Channel/Frequency that are using the identical CTCSS or DCS code. The RT-490s have a feature that can discover a frequency's codes in use and thus provide the ability to join the conversation. Menu27, Menu28 for SCAN DCS, CTCSS. CTCSS and DCS usage are well documented in the User Guide for the RT490 and other similar radios.

A feature unique to the RT-490 and clones is "Search/Seek". The radio side keys can be set to use option "Search" seek (Long Press PF2 to activate, then press P1 to cycle thru the Bands (UHF, VHF, 200, etc). If Search/Seek finds an active frequency in the band and also discovers a CTCSS or DCS code in use then the radio can save that as a saved memory for future use.

Which brings us to the RT-490's "Menu08 VOICEPRI" with it's 4 selections ENCRY1,..2,..3,..4. This is another encryption option that in many respects operates like a custom privacy code. In fact, when you use VOICEPRI for a saved memory, and select one of the 4 Encrys, you can then create a custom tone code to work with the selected Encry. For the custom code to work, you must enable it in Properties, Other. When you do that the RT-490 will write that code to Menu5, Menu7 R-DCS, T-DCS. This was very confusing, so the development team has added tips and guidance in the sections that require custom entries. Lead developer Ao9 also fixed instances where leaving a required entry blank could cause an error.

The attached 1-page flyer summarizes the different scenarios we staged to make sure that VOICEPRI and Learn Codes work correctly and error Free. The test consisted of 3 radios - Radtel RT-490, MML8629 and generic Baofeng UV-5R. We used the UV5r to see if any of the possible encryption or code settings would truly make the conversation private. Short answer is no. A radio with no encryption tuned in can hear both sides of an encrypted conversation...BUT they cannot talk to the encrypted radios and the encrypted radios cannot talk to the unencrypted radio (the Bao).

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 7 months ago

File failed to attach a few minutes ago...

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 7 months ago

. @angelof9:matrix.org wrote:

RT-490 Driver patch has been submitted.

For those that cannot wait here are the steps to use the driver with the official daily Chirp:
  • Start Chirp
  • Check "Enable Developer Functions" in "Help" menu
  • In "File" menu use "Load module" to load the RT-490 driver
  • Plug your radio
  • Download from your radio
  • Have fun

Download Info: Click on file 'RT-490.py' and the file text will open on display. Notice the small link at the very top that says'Download'. Click 'Download' and windows will begin the download. This file is the RT-490 driver module that Chirp will Load.

Updated by Anton Kormiltsev 6 months ago

Good afternoon.
I checked your driver and the daily version with HamGeek HG-580 (analog Radtel RT-490 without BT and GPS), the range was successfully opened, channels and all settings were successfully recorded.
100-999MHz TX-RX OK, but from 660-720MHz the radio is frozen on TX.
Thank you very much.

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 6 months ago

Anton Kormiltsev wrote:

Good afternoon.
I checked your driver and the daily version with HamGeek HG-580 (analog Radtel RT-490 without BT and GPS), the range was successfully opened, channels and all settings were successfully recorded.
100-999MHz TX-RX OK, but from 660-720MHz the radio is frozen on TX.
Thank you very much.

Well hmm, thank you for the feedback :)
I see you are playing with experimental features, honestly I cannot test myself because I don't have the correct instruments to measure limits... So on this topic any help is welcome.

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Anton Kormiltsev wrote:

Good afternoon.
I checked your driver and the daily version with HamGeek HG-580 (analog Radtel RT-490 without BT and GPS), the range was successfully opened, channels and all settings were successfully recorded.
100-999MHz TX-RX OK, but from 660-720MHz the radio is frozen on TX.
Thank you very much.

Does the factory programming software program working 660-720 MHz channels? If yes, then program a working channel with the factory programming software and then program a non-working channel right next to it using CHIRP. Attach a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file that contains these 2 channels so it can be examined. Don't forget to mention which channel # is factory and which channel # is CHIRP.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 6 months ago

The RT-490 supports to 520mhz. If you want to test for unsupported bands, in VFO mode enter a band start like 400.000 and press scan.When then the radio reaches end of band it will start over within the same band. It will not jump to the next higher band.

Updated by Anton Kormiltsev 6 months ago

Sorry im newbie =)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SJmIhI5J4Y

Work after opening the range.

Updated by Attila Jantsek 6 months ago

. @angelof9:matrix.org wrote:

RT-490 Driver patch has been submitted.

[RT-490] New driver for Radtel RT-490 and 8 other clones (Fix issue #9665)

The driver supports:
  • Radtel RT-490,
  • MMLradio 8629,
  • JJCC 8629,
  • Socotran JC8629,
  • Socotran FB8629,
  • Jianpai 8629,
  • Boristone 8RS,
  • Abbree AR869,
  • HamGeek HG590.

Support ALL official software features.

Plus these new features:
  • FM preset
  • Channel memory preset
  • Killswitch setup (+ can revive killed radios)
  • Bands settings for 4 bands ranges + tx on/off
  • Fixed issue of radio being corrupted with official software
    with custom (channel/ani) names
  • Included basic help for custom features
  • Clarified Group/Team GPS Discovery setup (Good for team of up to 10 radios)
  • Supports Voice Privacy Learn Code function (managed in Memory, Properties, Other)
  • Disable radio identification string verification
    (good to recover from a bad state)
For those that cannot wait here are the steps to use the driver with the official daily Chirp:
  • Start Chirp
  • Check "Enable Developer Functions" in "Help" menu
  • In "File" menu use "Load module" to load the RT-490 driver
  • Plug your radio
  • Download from your radio
  • Have fun

Hi Angelo,

Followed your instructions, and received an "Unable to load module: invalid syntax (rt490.py, line 1)" when attempting to load the file.
Check the with Python and the syntax looks normal, with no errors.
Do you have any suggestions?

73

Attila VE3YO

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Attila Jantsek wrote:

Hi Angelo,

Followed your instructions, and received an "Unable to load module: invalid syntax (rt490.py, line 1)" when attempting to load the file.
Check the with Python and the syntax looks normal, with no errors.
Do you have any suggestions?

73

Attila VE3YO

It sounds like you made the mistake of right-clicking the driver link and choosing “Save link as…”. This downloads the web page that you would download the driver from. Instead you must left-click the link, wait for the download page to load, then finally click the “download” link near the top of the page that loaded.

Plus, I think this support has already been added to CHIRP so you can just upgrade to the latest CHIRP daily build and eliminate the need to download and use this temporary driver module.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Anton Kormiltsev 6 months ago

Good day my friends.
Please help - The radio with open range but can`t record channel with offset.
Screens attached.

Updated by Anton Kormiltsev 6 months ago

Anton Kormiltsev wrote:

Good day my friends.
Please help - The radio with open range but can`t record channel with offset.
Screens attached.

https://www.imagevenue.com/ME14VFGD
https://www.imagevenue.com/ME14VFGF

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 6 months ago

Anton, you can restrict the frequencies in the experimental Band controls, however you cannot have the RT-490 go beyond the frequencies that are supported by its transceiver. You can discover the band width limits by using the scan function. For instance, using VFO mode, key in a starting frequency for the band you are trying to discover. For instance, key 108.000000 (this is the VHF band for Aircraft) and then begin the scan. Once the radio reaches the transceiver limit (this case it was 136.00000), it will loop back to 108.000000 and start the scan over within that band. I did this for all bands during the testing of this feature. I found some frequencies that were additional to those advertised (like 200 to 260 instead of 220 to 260). The "Bands" setting will allow you to indicate bands that are out of range of the transceiver, but firmware restrictions will show the out-of-limit error. So based on my test scans in each band, these are the band limits to use and as such you should see no errors.

108 to 136
136 to 180
200 to 260
350 to 399
400 to 520

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 6 months ago

The Final Driver as posted in this thread is still required. As of today, May 24 it has not yet been incorporated into production Chirp.

Download Instruction Short Version:

1 - At the top of this thead where the attachments are listed, Click on file 'RT-490.py'
2 - RT-490.py will open and appear as text on display.
3 - Notice the small link at the very top of the open file that says 'Download'. Click 'Download' and MS Windows will begin the download.
4 - This file is the RT-490 driver module that Chirp will Load. View it if you like, but be aware some text editors may corrupt it.
5 - Start Chirp, turn on 'Developer Functions' under Help
6 - 'Load Module' under File and point to the RT-490.py file just downloaded.

Updated by Patrick Larkin 6 months ago

I received my MMLRadio JC-8629 yesterday, and I'm trying out the RT-490.py. So far, it works great (but I don't know enough about the radio itself yet). Congratulations to all involved in making this device CHIRPable! Big-Win for All!!

Now, question: Is there a proper forum or group on which to compare notes and ask questions? For example, what does SEEK do, how-to & use-cases for Custom Channel Names, Mem Channel Privacy Codes, what's to be heard on 350 Mhz band, and "why do I hear a telephone dialtone at 132.0025?"

Many thanks again to Herbert & everyone involved.

Updated by Anton Kormiltsev 6 months ago

Herbert Smith wrote:

Anton, you can restrict the frequencies in the experimental Band controls, however you cannot have the RT-490 go beyond the frequencies that are supported by its transceiver. You can discover the band width limits by using the scan function. For instance, using VFO mode, key in a starting frequency for the band you are trying to discover. For instance, key 108.000000 (this is the VHF band for Aircraft) and then begin the scan. Once the radio reaches the transceiver limit (this case it was 136.00000), it will loop back to 108.000000 and start the scan over within that band. I did this for all bands during the testing of this feature. I found some frequencies that were additional to those advertised (like 200 to 260 instead of 220 to 260). The "Bands" setting will allow you to indicate bands that are out of range of the transceiver, but firmware restrictions will show the out-of-limit error. So based on my test scans in each band, these are the band limits to use and as such you should see no errors.

108 to 136
136 to 180
200 to 260
350 to 399
400 to 520

Dear Herbert, the radio transmits perfectly on the open range from 100 to 999 MHz, I personally checked it.
Only at 660-725 MHz it freezes.
The problem is that there is no way to record a channel with a repeater offset, as I indicated in the screenshots.

https://www.imagevenue.com/ME14VFGD
https://www.imagevenue.com/ME14VFGF

I meant frequencies of 200-299 MHz.
The radio transmits to them perfectly without errors, but it is impossible to record an offset of +41 for a frequency of 255.550.
I was surprised that the radio really works on the 100-999 MHz range, but does not want to record frequency offsets for channels.
Please try to bypass this limitation.
The same problem is in the neighboring topic with Baofeng UV-5R-III, it can open and work at 200-299 MHz, but the offset is also not recorded in the channels(
Thank you very much for your work)

Updated by Patrick Larkin 6 months ago

I hope it's ok for me to post this here: I created a new Facebook group for RT-490 users. You are all invited. https://www.facebook.com/groups/570949897923326/?ref=share_group_link

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

Is it intentional that the above plug-in does not read or write device settings?

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 6 months ago

It does read and write settings. Where are you seeing it not?

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

My settings tab is entirely blank. Not a single character is displayed, much less any data from the radio.

Frequencies all read and write OK.

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Andy B wrote:

My settings tab is entirely blank. Not a single character is displayed, much less any data from the radio.

Frequencies all read and write OK.

This would typically be an indication that your radio has one or more settings that are invalid/out-of-range.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

I read the radio just add it came from the factory, before anything was changed, so I could have a factory default backup. What could be out of range?

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Andy B wrote:

I read the radio just add it came from the factory, before anything was changed, so I could have a factory default backup. What could be out of range?

This is a new driver. It could have a bug. Also it is not uncommon for a bit to be flipped from the factory that causes issues. Again this is a new driver. Confirming this is the issue would be simple to do if the “image” was made available for a developer to examine.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

Factory Default IMG attached.

Thank You!

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Andy B wrote:

Factory Default IMG attached.

Thank You!

After taking a quick look it appears that this issue is in the area of the VFO settings. The "Wide / Narrow" setting. If I am understanding the code correctly, CHIRP is expecting a 0x00 or an 0x01 (Wide or Narrow) and your radio has a value of 0x04 in both VFOs (which is out-of-range for both VFOs).

For the fun of it I edited the "narrow" setting of both VFOs so that they are set to 0x01 (Narrow) and the settings tabs with all of their individual settings then display as expected (altered image attached).

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

Thank You Jim KC9HI!!!

Updated by Patrick Larkin 6 months ago

  • File JJCC8629_v1.5.2 English 2022.zip added

FYI: Thanks to a user on Facebook, we found another version of the "factory" software which can successfully save channel names in mixed case, and with special characters (for example "GR*Tyler.575"). I've tested it on my MMLRadio 8629. Can the CHIRP module be modified to support the full upper/lower/alphanumeric & special characters?

I'll try uploading the JJCC factory software here.

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Patrick Larkin wrote:

I'll try uploading the JJCC factory software here.

Please DO NOT attach the manufacturer's software to the issue. Even if you think the software is freely available via download elsewhere, that does not mean you can legally distribute it yourself. Posting it here also opens up the CHIRP website and community to potential action by owners of that software. If it is downloadable somewhere, feel free to post a link but DO NOT attach it to the issue.

Thanks,
Jim KC9HI

Updated by Bernhard Hailer 6 months ago

  • File deleted (JJCC8629_v1.5.2 English 2022.zip)

Updated by Bernhard Hailer 6 months ago

  • Target version set to chirp-daily

I found your patch on the developer's mailing list ("New driver for Radtel RT-490 and clones (fix #9665) (patch)", May 6th, 10:31), but I guess it has been overlooked. Maybe you want to resend it?

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 6 months ago

25Updated by Herbert Smith about 1 month ago
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. @angelof9:matrix.org wrote:

RT-490 Driver patch has been submitted.

For those that cannot wait here are the steps to use the driver with the official daily Chirp:
Start Chirp
Check "Enable Developer Functions" in "Help" menu
In "File" menu use "Load module" to load the RT-490 driver
Plug your radio
Download from your radio
Have fun
Download Info: Click on file 'RT-490.py' and the file text will open on display. Notice the small link at the very top that says'Download'. Click 'Download' and windows will begin the download. This file is the RT-490 driver module that Chirp will Load.

Updated by Patrick Larkin 6 months ago

Jim Unroe wrote:

Patrick Larkin wrote:

I'll try uploading the JJCC factory software here.

Please DO NOT attach the manufacturer's software to the issue. Even if you think the software is freely available via download elsewhere, that does not mean you can legally distribute it yourself. Posting it here also opens up the CHIRP website and community to potential action by owners of that software. If it is downloadable somewhere, feel free to post a link but DO NOT attach it to the issue.

Thanks,
Jim KC9HI

My apologies. Here's the link:
https://rugbyradiosuk.com/collections/programming-software-downloads/products/download-programming-software-for-jc8629-v1-5-2-2022-english

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 6 months ago

Sorry for the delay.
I am back, just give me few days to catch up with all the messages and last bug fixes.

Updated by Karl Matthias 6 months ago

I used the attached driver on the nightly from last night on a brand new Jianpai 8800 just now and it works as expected for setting channels, no issues. I have not tested the other settings selections.

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

How does one use the 'Driver Patch'?

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Andy B wrote:

How does one use the 'Driver Patch'?

It was explained in duplicate notes #53, #54 and #55 above.

[duplicates removed, it#s now #53.) - edited by Bernhard, AE6YN]

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

I only see instructions for the '.py' file, nothing for the '.patch' file.

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 6 months ago

Please ignore the "file.patch", it is for developers and means to be merged in Chirp source code.

Updated by Andy B 6 months ago

Thank you!

Updated by Jim Unroe 6 months ago

Andy B wrote:

I only see instructions for the '.py' file, nothing for the '.patch' file.

The '.patch' file if for if you have a CHIRP development system with Mercurial. The '.py' file is what you want.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 6 months ago

Herbert Smith K15VGT wrote: Posting Error #54 duplicate Text Removed

Updated by Freek Wolsink 5 months ago

When is the public version coming?

Updated by Freek Wolsink 5 months ago

some PDF files i found on the net

Updated by Claudio Muniz 5 months ago

Good afternoon, reprogramming the radio Radtel RT-490 by the usb cable (Chirp), at the time of rewriting, an error occurred at the end of the recording, I tried again and it still didn't work. The problem is that the language is only Chinese and the English language has disappeared as shown in the photo below. I already reset the radio and nothing to return the language to English, any tips that can solve this problem? Grateful.

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT 5 months ago

Follow these steps to change language on the RT-490 or clones:

1) Install the most recent production daily Chirp
2) Download the file RT-490.py (the link to that file is at the top of this thread)
3) Plug in your programming cable
4) Run Chirp
5) Under Help on the top menu, "Enable Developer Functions"
6) Under File "Load Module" and browse to the downloaded file "RT-490.py"
7) Read from your radio
8) Under top Menu "View" "Change Language" and select English
9) Write Radio (if errors, check that you cable is in tight)
That usually works! Good Luck.

Updated by Claudio Muniz 5 months ago

Good night Herbert Smith K15VGT, I did the procedure about 5 times, but it's still the same, it's still in the Chinese language.

Updated by Claudio Muniz 5 months ago

From what I saw, this language option in Chirp, only changes the language of the Chirp and not of the radio Firmware. Not how it changed on the radio due to a programming error.

Updated by Jim Unroe 5 months ago

Claudio Muniz wrote:

From what I saw, this language option in Chirp, only changes the language of the Chirp and not of the radio Firmware. Not how it changed on the radio due to a programming error.

Correct (but I doubt that it was change due to a program error).

You should be able to set it back by uploading the "backup" image that you made immediately after the first successful download. If you didn't make a backup, then it would seem to me, after reading RT-490 User Manual, that all you have to do would be to access the radio's menu 18 (LANGUAGE) and set it back to English. Sure it won't be easy with the radio set to Chinese, but it should still be doable.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Claudio Muniz 5 months ago

In menu 18, the English language option no longer appears. Before, only the English language appeared, now only Chinese appears, there is no way to choose, the option is unique, see the photo. How to change it?

Updated by Jim Unroe 5 months ago

Claudio Muniz wrote:

In menu 18, the English language option no longer appears. Before, only the English language appeared, now only Chinese appears, there is no way to choose, the option is unique, see the photo. How to change it?

I don't have an RT-490 yet, but typically these radio's menus only show the selected choice. You have to put the menu into edit mode which then allows you you to "arrow" through all of the possible choices. Menu 18 should have 2 choices: English and Chinese.

For example in your picture, the top line is the menu name, Language. The bottom line is the currently selected language, Chinese.

For the fun of it, what happens when you upload Andy B's "factory" image to your radio? Don't forget to first download from your radio and then save the newly created tab to a *.img file to create a backup of your radio's current state.

Thanks,
Jim KC9HI

Updated by . @angelof9:matrix.org 5 months ago

Well the language issue is weird.
On my Radtel there is only english, and no second language.

Updated by Andy B 5 months ago

Press 'Menu' (below P1) and select Option 18 by scrolling with the arrow Up/Down keys, by turning the 'Channel Knob', or by simply pressing "1" - "8" on the KeyPad.

Then Press 'Menu' again (below P1) to activate the Language Option, and again use the arrow Up/Down keys or 'Channel Knob' to scroll through all available options.

When the desired language option is selected, Press 'Menu' (below P1) once more to confirm then press 'Exit' (under P2).

Note: My MMLRadio version had two language options, English and Chinese, but my Jianpai version has only English available.

In the photo provided previsouly, it appears that the 'Radio' is in English while the 'Menu' is in Chinese - which is baffling!

Updated by Jim Unroe 5 months ago

Andy B wrote:

Press 'Menu' (below P1) and select Option 18 by scrolling with the arrow Up/Down keys, by turning the 'Channel Knob', or by simply pressing "1" - "8" on the KeyPad.

Then Press 'Menu' again (below P1) to activate the Language Option, and again use the arrow Up/Down keys or 'Channel Knob' to scroll through all available options.

When the desired language option is selected, Press 'Menu' (below P1) once more to confirm then press 'Exit' (under P2).

Note: My MMLRadio version had two language options, English and Chinese, but my Jianpai version has only English available.

In the photo provided previsouly, it appears that the 'Radio' is in English while the 'Menu' is in Chinese - which is baffling!

Andy B,

Would you attach 2 CHIRP image files, the only difference between them being the Language selection (one set to Engilsh and the other set to Chinese)? Thanks.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Andy B 5 months ago

I am so sorry, I already returned the MMLRadio version and replaced it with the Jianpai version instead - much better case!

Updated by Jim Unroe 5 months ago

Andy B wrote:

I am so sorry, I already returned the MMLRadio version and replaced it with the Jianpai version instead - much better case!

OK. Thanks.

Jim

Updated by Richard Fluharty 5 months ago

Welp... that's it for me. Back to the factory software.
Guess this'll never get released

Updated by Richard Fluharty 5 months ago

More

Updated by Rudy Reyes 5 months ago

Richard Fluharty wrote:

Welp... that's it for me. Back to the factory software.
Guess this'll never get released

Refer to post #32 for this issue.

Updated by Jim Unroe 5 months ago

Richard Fluharty wrote:

Welp... that's it for me. Back to the factory software.
Guess this'll never get released

You didn't download the test driver module properly. You apparently right-clicked the link and chose "Save file as..." which downloaded the HTML for the page that would have loaded if you would have left-clicked the link. After left-clicking the link, a page loads that will display a text version of the driver code. The "download" link near the top left of that page (see attached screen capture) is what you click to properly download the file.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Patrick Larkin 5 months ago

Would you attach 2 CHIRP image files, the only difference between them being the Language selection (one set to Engilsh and the other set to Chinese)? Thanks.

Jim KC9HI

Jim,
I was going to do this from my MMLRadio, but alas, English is the only language available on option 18.

Updated by Jim Unroe 5 months ago

Patrick Larkin wrote:

Would you attach 2 CHIRP image files, the only difference between them being the Language selection (one set to Engilsh and the other set to Chinese)? Thanks.

Jim KC9HI

Jim,
I was going to do this from my MMLRadio, but alas, English is the only language available on option 18.

OK. That sort of makes sense since the OEM software doesn't have a setting for choosing the Language.

If anyone else has a model variant that does include multiple choices for Language (English/Chinese/etc), it would be very useful to have CHIRP images taken from the radio while set to the various choices.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Hongguang Yang 5 months ago

Claudio Muniz wrote:

Good afternoon, reprogramming the radio Radtel RT-490 by the usb cable (Chirp), at the time of rewriting, an error occurred at the end of the recording, I tried again and it still didn't work. The problem is that the language is only Chinese and the English language has disappeared as shown in the photo below. I already reset the radio and nothing to return the language to English, any tips that can solve this problem? Grateful.

Maybe in the process of writing frequency, you inadvertently touched a certain value, so the value changes. In fact, the English interface can be changed by writing frequency software, but I don't know the specific value. The value on the English interface is 0, and that on the Chinese interface is 1

Updated by Jim Unroe 5 months ago

Hongguang Yang wrote:

Claudio Muniz wrote:

Good afternoon, reprogramming the radio Radtel RT-490 by the usb cable (Chirp), at the time of rewriting, an error occurred at the end of the recording, I tried again and it still didn't work. The problem is that the language is only Chinese and the English language has disappeared as shown in the photo below. I already reset the radio and nothing to return the language to English, any tips that can solve this problem? Grateful.

Maybe in the process of writing frequency, you inadvertently touched a certain value, so the value changes. In fact, the English interface can be changed by writing frequency software, but I don't know the specific value. The value on the English interface is 0, and that on the Chinese interface is 1

According to a review on Amazon, this can happen when using the some of the Bluetooth programming applications that are available to program these radios. The following is a quote from that review.

"Do not download the Bluetooth programming APP from MMLRADIO. If you do, it comes up in Chinese and there doesn't seem to be a way to switch it to English. It's the same programming APP as for the Radtel RT-490, which is easy to find on the internet with a search."

However, if you are lucky enough to capture a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) from your radio before this happens, you should be able to upload this "image" back to your radio to restore it back to its earlier state. Making a "factory" CHIRP image is the first thing I plan on doing once I get my JC-8629 (which is the first thing I do with all new radios that I acquire).

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Andy B 5 months ago

Can someone pleae update the 'patch' to allow 12 character channel names? Currently I am only able to use 10 characters for channel names, and the OE software, and the radio, both support 12 characters for each channel name. Thank You!

Updated by Hongguang Yang 5 months ago

Today, I upgraded CHIRP to version 20220703 and found 2 problems.

First, as before, after loading the RT-490.py module. After downloading it from the Boristone 8RS, I found that the original Settings menu had gone blank. I rewrote the IMG file from the original backup to restore the Settings page,

Second, the channel name of my intercom is In Chinese, but after reading it into CHIRP by computer, the Chinese is missing. I judge that CHIRP does not support Chinese character modification and display!!

Updated by Jim Unroe 4 months ago

Hongguang Yang wrote:

First, as before, after loading the RT-490.py module. After downloading it from the Boristone 8RS, I found that the original Settings menu had gone blank. I rewrote the IMG file from the original backup to restore the Settings page,

I would have taken a look at the debug.log file to find out which setting was out-of-range and why. That way the driver could have been updated to support this condition. Once whatever setting it was becomes out-of-range again, the Settings page will become blank again.

If you happen to have a saved "image" with the "blank Settings page" condition, please load it into CHIRP, verify that the Settings tab is blank, then close CHIRP. Now you can look at the debug.log to investigate the issue. Or get the "image" and debug.log to me and I will investigate it.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Hongguang Yang 4 months ago

Claudio Muniz wrote:

Good afternoon, reprogramming the radio Radtel RT-490 by the usb cable (Chirp), at the time of rewriting, an error occurred at the end of the recording, I tried again and it still didn't work. The problem is that the language is only Chinese and the English language has disappeared as shown in the photo below. I already reset the radio and nothing to return the language to English, any tips that can solve this problem? Grateful.

I backed up the IMG file of my radio English interface with CHIRP. After testing, the Chinese interface can be modified into English interface through CHIRP. You can try it for your radio . My Radio model is Boristone-8RS。

Before operation, you need to be reminded that you need to save a backup of the original Radio content with chirp to prevent operation failure

Updated by Jim Unroe 4 months ago

Andy B wrote:

Can someone pleae update the 'patch' to allow 12 character channel names? Currently I am only able to use 10 characters for channel names, and the OE software, and the radio, both support 12 characters for each channel name. Thank You!

It looks to me like the experimental driver module attached to this issue is coded to support 12 character channel names. I just used it to store a 12 character name into a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) for my JC-8629.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by Jim Unroe 4 months ago

CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file captured from a JJCC (aka MMLradio) JC-8629 in its as-delivered "factory" state.

Jim KC9HI

Updated by neil neil 3 months ago

just ordered the jp 8800 version. hopig to test with the py file here.

Updated by Joe T 3 months ago

Hi very fine business,
but when I expand upper band limit from 520 to 525 Mhz and want to enter a frequency with 523 Mhz an erroe message appears "frequency out of supported range"
is there a simple workaround?
tnx

Updated by Joe T 3 months ago

Hi very fine business,
but when I expand upper band limit from 520 to 525 Mhz and want to enter a frequency with 523 Mhz an erroe message appears "frequency out of supported range"
is there a simple workaround?
tnx

Updated by Richard Fluharty 8 days ago

No more interest on this? Isn't incorporated into Chirp yet.

Updated by Richard Fluharty 8 days ago

No more interest on this? Isn't incorporated into Chirp yet.

Updated by Mr T 8 days ago

Richard Fluharty wrote:

No more interest on this? Isn't incorporated into Chirp yet.

Yeah,I also noticed, this radio biggest thing since UV5R. Not relying on this yet, the original program is stable although lacking updates.Plus a lot of people are bricking the radios playing with different software firmware trying to do magic with it. Constantly blocking people crying about bricking the radio on our user group on Telegram.

Updated by Bartlomiej Zielinski 4 days ago

It seems in the driver, the set of characters available for channel names is limited. Lowercase and some special characters are disabled.
BTW. If necessary, I have RT490 and I can join testing the driver.

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